Questions about the fall of Angels


by Rev. Jack Barr


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You Ask The Following Questions.

WAS HEAVEN AND THE ANGELS CREATED BEFORE THE EARTH?

The Bible gives no information of when the Angels were created, or when some of them rebelled against God. It is believed that the Angels were created long before man, and some did fall shortly after their creation.

The Bible tells us that on the 1st day of creation that the Earth was created and that on the 2nd day the Firmament which God called Heaven was created. Where God and the Angels were before that is not told to us, nor are we told how many Heavens there are. We see that 2 Cor. 12:2 speaks of the third Heaven. Nor does it tell us when those other Heavens were created, or how they relate to our concept of Heaven.

 

WHEN THE ANGELS WERE CAST OUT OF HEAVEN WAS THE EARTH STILL A MASS OF DARKNESS?

No.
Satan and many of the other fallen Angels have not yet been cast out of heaven. See Job 1:6, and 2:1 where Satan presents himself before God with the other Angels. (It is believed by many that Job and Abraham lived about the same time.) They will be cast out of heaven during the Tribulation period. See Mat. 25:41, for their punishment to come in the hell that was made for them; and Rev. 12:7-9 where Satan and his fallen angels will be cast out of heaven during the middle of the tribulation period.

However, 2 Pe. 2:4, and Jude 6, indicates that some of the fallen Angels were cast into hell and some of them are being held in chains of darkness until the judgement day. John 12:31 seems to indicate that the Prince of this world (Satan) was not cast out or could not be cast out before Jesus died. Rev. 12:4 indicates that Satan himself brought one third of his fallen angels to the earth just before Jesus was born. (Stars can be actual stars, planets, meteors; or it can be an exalted person such as a movie star, or an angel as in Rev. 1:16, 20.) That Satan brings them to earth would indicate that these stars are part of his fallen Angels. Note the symbolism used. The woman (verse 12:1) is the Israelite nation, shown by the crown of 12 stars (the 12 tribes). The male child who will rule (verse 12:5) is Jesus who was raised from the dead, ascending into heaven to take His position on His Throne. Verse 6 shows a time in the future when part of the Jewish nation will flee from Jerusalem to a place that will keep them safe during the last half of the tribulation period.

 

WHAT IS THE STORY WHEN SATAN REBELLED AGAINST GOD?

The bible does not tell us when Satan rebelled against God. It does tell us why Satan rebelled. It was for Pride. See Isa. 14:12-16 which tells of his pride, and Ezek. 28:12-19 which describes Satan and compare with Job 41 which gives additional description of Satan.

Satan was already in rebellion when he led Eve to rebel against God in the Garden of Eden, by eating of the forbidden fruit. This would indicate that Satan's rebellion against God was probably before the Heavens and Earth (as we know them) was created.

 

WHAT IS THE CONNECTION OF THE FALL OF ANGELS AND GOD'S PLAN IN CREATION?

I do not know what connection of the fall of Angels and God's plan in Creation is. But the bible tells us that God has used, is still using, and will continue using them until All evil is done away with.

The bible tells us that God uses Evil Spirits for His own Purposes. See Judges 9:23; 1Sam. 16:14-16, 23; 18:10; and 19:9. And God sent a Lying Spirit to deceive a king, leading to the king being led to judgement. See 1Kings 22:22-23, and 2 Chron. 18:21-22. These Evil and Lying spirits are allowed to torment and to deceive in judgement.

Satan himself is shown to be used by God to separate the good from the bad. See Rev. 20:1-3, where Satan, after leading the evil men of the world against Jesus when Jesus returns. (The battle of Armageddon) Satan will be held in chains in the bottomless pit for a thousand years, at which time God has decreed that Satan must be set free again for a little while to again deceive men, and Rev. 20:7-8 where Satan is set free to again gather all those who are evil on the earth to again battle with God. The last of the evil men on the earth will be destroyed in this battle leaving only the good and pure. It is only when God has finished using Satan and his evil angels for God's Purpose of separating the good from the evil that they will finally be sent to their final punishment in the Lake of Fire.

Throughout the bible, we are shown that God has repeatedly used men, and nations, who were evil, men and nations who were controlled by Satan, in order to test man, and to bring judgement upon man.

The Book of Job shows how God allowed Satan to bring evil upon Job, to show that Job will not turn away from God. A test.

The evil nation of Babylon was used to bring judgement upon the Jewish nation. See Dan. 1:1-2 Babylon was later destroyed when God sent another nation against it. See Dan. 5:18-31

I believe that this will answer the questions that you asked.

Rev. Jack Barr


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