Testimony of Carl and Cyndie BARR


The following is about the son of Jack Edward Barr and Shirly Brown Barr who died and was brought back to life by God.

30 July 1989  Fountain First Assembly of God, Fountain, Florida

CARL:   GOD created man, Adam, then created Eve to be his 
helpmate, to be someone to help him and GOD gave me some of it 
and I couldn't honestly stand up here and tell the whole story of what 
GOD done cause I was unconscious during most of it, so will have to 
ask my helpmate to come up and help me.  I would like to introduce 
my wife Cyndie.


CARL:  A little background, on ourselves, I got saved in 1976 at the 
First Baptist Church, Green Hills- Fountain, (Florida) and then was 
kind of real active and interested in the Church and doing something 
for God. Then I joined the Navy, after high school and went off, did 
my thing in the Navy, as a Nuclear Machinist Mate and we'll get back 
in detail but just briefly during that time I met my wife (Cyndie) and 
we got married and we had our first child.  We moved to Idaho in the 
Navy, went back to here and there, bounced around the country 
finally ended up in New York (State).  My wife got saved while she 
was there as well as my son.  I say we will come back to detail with 
that, but to start out with what we're trying to tell you is that we're 
here to tell a story of what GOD's done through us, through me not 
what we've done but what GOD's done.  We would like you to listen 
to him through us, and listen to what he is saying to you, and it all 
started with a promise.

It all started with a promise I made to my wife (Cyndie) that before 
and if she got pregnant, before she had that baby I would quit 
smoking.  I was a pretty heavy smoker at the time.  It didn't  seem 
like something very easy to do, but I made that promise to her.  Well 
I can do that but I made a promise to GOD. I made a promise to 
GOD that he's given us a baby that before we have that baby I would 
quit smoking and time went on and time went on, I tried and tried 
and realized I couldn't do it myself, so then I turned to the first 
promise before any of those promises.  GOD promised me that what 
so ever he asked in my name that will I do.  So I did it, I asked GOD 
to help me, I asked JESUS to help me and he did and were here to 
tell you a story of how he did that.  I asked him to help me quit 
smoking.  I didn't ask him how or when, but he certainly did it.

Now that the background is set.  We are in New York a little town 
called Wilton, a little bit north of Saratoga Springs, that's where the 
big horse track is.  I'd never heard of the place till I got there.  For a 
long time, Cyndie and I had been discussing and she had been 
searching, she's a Catholic, she'd been searching for something, now 
for a church to provide something for her.  There was one Sunday, 
that the two of us were in the kitchen, that she started crying, 
because she wasn't in a church. We stopped right there and I prayed 
for her and prayed with her that we would find a church that we 
would be able to go to.  Now, meanwhile there's a fellowship of 
people that are gathering together and meeting in a grange hall, that 
are looking for a pastor. So they finally found a pastor to come up 
and fill the pulpit.  He decided that they didn't have a visitation 
program, a door to door witnessing program.  So he wanted to get 
something started, so him and his wife decided to go out on a 
Tuesday following that Sunday.  You can probably gather by now 
that the first door they knocked on was ours. So from that Sunday to 
that Tuesday GOD worked that quick. Like I said I can't tell the 
whole story because it wasn't all me. So I'll let my wife tell you how 
she got saved through this experience.

CYNDIE:  Now when he came knocking at the door, it was a 
payday, and we were running around trying to get things done and 
we had twenty four hours in one day and a hundred and one things to 
do. I'm running around cleaning house, trying to hurry up, I had my 
playtex gloves on and he came knocking at the door.  I hid my hands 
behind my back and answered the door and he says I've come to 
share the LORD with you and all of a sudden I felt I had to listen.  
Well, he started talking to me and he asked me if I had been saved 
and I was under the impression that knowing JESUS, I was saved, so 
I answered yes. And a couple of weeks later at, the end of July, they 
had a vacation bible study for children.  I went to it with my child to 
assist and they were gathering under a tree.  They had Missionary 
visiting and he is telling the little children about LORD JESUS.  It 
was there that I was listening to him that I came to realize that on 
July 27, (1987) that I didn't know JESUS in my heart, that I knew in 
my mind that I didn't know him in my heart.  It was that same day 
that my son and I both got saved.  We started to attend the Church 
on a regular basis then, and I was like a hungry child, there was so 
much there and I just wanted to have it all.  I couldn't get enough and 
it was a fulfillment that I felt that I could share with my child now, 
and I knew that GOD was leading our family in the right direction.  
At the time the LORD, (pause) I stated praying to the LORD, my 
husband was working eighteen to twenty two hours a day, coming 
home, and he just gobbled down something and just go to sleep.  I 
asked him to go to church, but he was to tired, that he would go and 
he would fall asleep. So then the Lord used that, he started lessening 
the hours and he started to attend church, and sure enough he went 
back to the LORD. We are one family now and shortly after that 
things started happening, the LORD started using us.

CARL:   We started going back to church and started coming back 
to GOD. Now, realize it had been nine years since I left here, since I 
left Fountain, (Florida), its been seven years before they came 
knocking on our door and before I started coming back. I came back 
to GOD, but he never left me during that time.  But now is the time 
that I really need him, because in late July it was the 27th of July of 
last year 1988.  I had a smokers cough it was just normal I thought 
but it started getting worse and I coughed up a little bit of blood, so I 
figured, well.  So on July 27th I went into sick call to see a doctor, 
they listen to my lungs, decided that they would try to get an xray, so 
I had a chest xray, and they saw what looked like to them, like 
pneumonia in my right lung.  Gave me antibiotics and treated me for 
10 days.  Went back and took another xray. Whatever was there, got 
larger, so they decided well, this isn't an infection, now that can't be 
treated with antibiotics, so we better send him to a specialist. They 
sent me to Albany (New York) Veterans Hospital, and we had a 
pulmonary expert come in and look at the xrays and he saw right off 
the bat from the xrays that it looked to him like there was something 
in the right main stem where the bronchial tube branches off, and 
they go to each lung and on the right side it looked like on the 
outside of it that there was something pressing against it to block it 
off.  So they decided I should have what they call a bronchoscopy.  
Now a bronchoscopy is where they have a tube, a flexible tube, that 
they put in through the nose and go down into the air pipes and look 
at your lungs. It had a little camera on it, and they had an extra eye 
piece on it, so they let me take a look at what was blocking the 
airway. Thats the grosses thing I have even seen, but they didn't 
know what it was. So they tried to get a little snip of it.  It started 
bleeding real bad, but they got enough to tell what it was. They spent 
hours waiting for them to look at it under the microscope.  At first 
they said we don't think its cancer.  A little while later our pastor 
came down, and they told him before they told me.  He came in an 
told me it was cancer. The first I thought, and the first thing I did 
when they told me it was cancer, I went over and lit up a cigarette, to 
calm my nerves down a bit here.  You know, have a cigarette.  Now 
I still had been praying the Lord would help me.  He almost got me 
right there, my pastor almost strangled me, it upset him so bad, he 
was going to shoot me.  But it took awhile, then they figured out 
what it was.  They really didn't know what they were going to do. So 
now its time to let my wife know, at that time she was very well into 
her pregnancy with our daughter.  She was due in Aug, on my 
birthday, Aug 21st., and this the 1st. of July.  The end of July that 
were finding out that I had cancer.  So I told her, but cautiously 
because I didn't want her to have a miscarriage, she almost did, not a 
miscarriage but she almost had a premature delivery, what ever you 
call it.  So she spent sometime in the hospital and promised the 
doctor that, this was around Aug 10th, promised the doctor that she 
wouldn't leave the immediate area.  The hospital I was going to was 
42 miles away, a little more then the doctor wanted her to travel.  
She promised thedoctor that she wouldn't, but on Aug 15th. they had 
scheduled me, what they were going to do was laser surgery, they 
were going to go down through the same bronchoscope, with a laser, 
and cut out some of that cancer to keep the air wave open, because it 
was growing across the right air wave.  Now before surgery, if 
you've had surgery you probably know that they are running you all 
over the place doing this test and that test and ultra sound of your 
liver and spleen and check this and check that.  So while they were 
running me around, Cyndie was up in my room on the 7th floor, or 
5th floor, with my pastor, his wife, and another good friend of ours. 
Now, while they were running me around, her water broke, she had 
one of her friends that was pushing her around in a wheelchair trying 
to find me.  Its funny if she tells it so I'll let her tell that part:

CYNDIE:   While he went to get an xray, this was two hours before 
surgery was scheduled for.  Our pastor went to inform the person 
that called him at the beginning of a prayer chain.  We started prayer 
chain.  His wife was with him trying to check on the children. My 
girlfriend Debbie stayed with me.  I broke my bag, sure enough the 
labor pains came and the nurse walked in, and she looked at Debbie 
and says what are you doing?  She (Debbie) said I'm counting her 
contractions.  She jumped a foot off the floor and said get her off my 
ward, we don't deliver babies here.  She ran and got a wheelchair, 
they brought it in, and they had a girl who had only worked there 
two weeks wheel me around.  I told her I'm not leaving this hospital 
till I find my husband and let him know I've gone in labor.  So this 
girl wheels me around.  We get on the elevator and wound up on the 
8th floor in the Mental Ward, and my labor pains got to 3 minutes 
apart, we got back into the elevator, and she said I think the xray is 
downstairs near the emergency. We wound up in Radiation Therapy, 
and then I said we better go back to the emergency.  By now our 
pastor had ran past us and said I'm going to get the car and Debbie is 
still breathing with me, and were a minute and a half apart when our 
pastor's wife and the administrator, who had found Carl, and he 
comes running down the hall, carrying his IV pole, looking like a guy 
carrying the torch at the Olympics.  Don't worry honey I'm on my 
way. They put me into the car, my pastor, his wife and my girlfriend 
Debbie.  They drove me across to the main hospital which is Albany 
Medical across from the Veterans, and their in the emergency room I 
waited, while he went back and they wouldn't release him so he 
yanked out his IV, and our pastor came back and got him so he could 
come and join me at the hospital.  He walked in and both Debbie's, 
our pastors wife is also called Debbie, we were all breathing so well 
he didn't know who was in labor.  This woman walked in, a female 
doctor, and she had just delivered 3 babies and her and her assistant 
nurse walked in, she turned to her and whispered oh I'll bet she 
planned this. To which I got very upset, and Carl happen to over 
hear and he got upset, and then she decided to be rude, so my 
husband said I'm not having my child to be born in this hospital.  I 
want her to be transported to our hospital back in Saratoga, (New 
York) our doctors waiting there. Then she said we can't get you an 
ambulance.  So we called our volunteer ambulance in Wilton (New 
York). They drove all the way down and picked us up and drove us 
back.  Meanwhile  my contractions have gone back to two minutes 
apart, and they stayed there and stabilized. We got into the 
ambulance and the good LORD was with me through out the 
pregnancy and he never left us. While I was strapped unto that 
gurney traffic didn't want to move, it was during traffic time, people 
getting off from work.  The ambulance was trying to get by and a 
semi decides to run a light and its coming head on at the ambulance.  
The ambulance had to dodge to avoid getting hit by the semi.  So my 
body got twisted off the gurney to the right and the baby went to the 
left.  So that shifted the baby out of the birth canal.  So we got to the 
hospital they tried putting her back in. Meanwhile were all praying 
and singing songs to the LORD. They didn't understand what I was 
on. They asked if I had gotten something to calm me down.  I said no 
just the good LORD in me.  Sure enough we waited awhile and when 
the labor pains got closer, but the baby wasn't coming, they decided 
to do a cesarean.  Well, Carl got to make it, he had prayed that GOD 
would let him see that baby be born.  Our 1st son had been an 
emergency "C" section, he couldn't see him.  When Rebekah was 
born he was there. It was one of the glorious sights you ever want to 

CARL:   Ever see some one get cut open?  Neither did I, but I 
thought was pretty neat, seeing blue skin and the fat tissue get moved 
aside and all of a sudden a little baby girl popped out.  As soon as 
they told me it was a girl, everyone in that delivery room, operating 
room, probably had their ear drums shattered when I shouted out 
"Praise the LORD" because we were praying for a girl.  Meanwhile 
the cancer was put on the back burner, obviously, because the 
important thing right now is the baby. What we did was turn to the 
Bible, turned to 1st Peter, chapter 5.  I'll read to you what we did, 
verse # 6 "Humble yourselves," let me get my place again, "Humble 
yourselves, therefore under the mighty hand of GOD, that he may 
exalt you in due time; Casting all your care upon him; for he careth 
for you." so we did, we humbled ourselves to the LORD.  This is in 
your hands, nothing obviously we can do about it, its in your hands.  
He answered that prayer, and allowed me to be there to see the baby 
born. Then we had to go back and take care of the cancer again.  
Now, it took awhile but they got me back down there to do the laser 
surgery.  They did that four times, they went in with a laser and cut 
out part of it to keep that area open four times, and they decided at 
that time it was growing so fast they couldn't keep it open.  So they 
decided to send me to a specialist.  Now, side from GOD, the best 
doctors in the world are probably at Bethesda Naval Hospital, 
(Maryland). Thats where the President goes, and yes, we saw him 
while we were there.  So they decided to send me there. Now, being 
in the Navy that was no problem. Went down there and we stayed 
with my sister (Ann) and her husband (Jim). Meanwhile my parents 
had driven up there. The first day again I went through a whole 
battery of test here and there and thats not a small hospital.  By the 
time we got done my brother in law, Jim and I probably knew that 
hospital inside and out. Running back and forth inside those hallways. 
Now, they got to the point where they said they don't really know 
what we can do.  But we want to admit you and do some test.  They 
admitted me the next day.  This is Sept 8th. We didn't really know if 
they were going to or not. They sent me down on orders for one day 
and return, but being as serious as it was, we kind of expected that.

CYNDIE:  Now, 9 days later you got your first leave. 

CARL:  They did what you call,---------------,another fancy term 
where they did was made a little incision up here in my throat, not in 
the throat, but in the skin. They went in now instead of inside the air 
wave, outside to see whats there. They went in, they found a 3 inch, 
about the size of your hand, a 3 inch mass in the tube that was 
growing in the right air wave.  It was starting to grow out into the 
mediastinum area, the chest cavity so they did some more blood test. 
They didn't know what kind of cancer it was, they knew it was 
cancer but the Cancer Society across the street knows of a hundred 
different kinds of cancer.  So they didn 't know what kind it was, so 
they didn't know how to treat it.  So they decided to do some more 
blood work. While they were waiting on the results of the blood 
work nine days later, the 16th of Sept. they decided to let me out for 
ten days. They figured it would be that long before they knew what 
the results were.  We figured thats great my parents are there to pick 
me up and we were going to go spend sometime with my sister 
(Ann) and her husband (Jim) and my parents, 10 days thats pretty 
good, a long time to be with them.  We were getting ready to leave 
and were standing by the elevator, the doctor walks up to us and says 
I can't let you go for 10 days, we can only let you out for the 
weekend.  That kind of broke our hearts, but GOD knew what he 
was doing.  We were resigned to, okay that, we were only going to 
get the weekend off.  We went out, had a good family time together.  
Had a barbecue, I think it was Saturday, this and that.  Late Sunday 
night I started hurting on the right side, the right chest, my arm, all 
down the side started hurting. So CYNDIE got some pain pills lift 
over from her "C" section.  She gave me a couple of those, and 
thought nothing of it. Got back in the hospital Monday morning and 
they did another series of chest xrays and found out the right lung 
had collapsed because the cancer had gone all the way across the air 
way, thats why the pain, because the left lung had been pushing over 
trying to do all the work. We talked on the phone, Monday, of 
course the football season, so could not talk to long, had to go watch 
the Browns get slaughtered, its not my favorite team anyways, of 
course the Dolphins are.  We talked on the phone, I talked to 
CYNDIE and we prayed. There is a poem that was written by an 
unknown author, you probably heard of it, called "FOOTPRINTS" 
(copy included) where this man had a dream he was walking through 
the sand with Jesus and there were two sets of footprints, and he gets 
to the end of his life and looks back, in his dream and there in only 
one set of footprints in the sand.  Well LORD, why did you leave me, 
you promised never to leave me, JESUS, turned around and said I 
didn't leave you, those footprints are mine. During troubled time, 
those hard times I was carrying you along and thats what I talked to 
CYNDIE about.  Aside from that I told her we didn't know what was 
going to happen, obviously, but I told her that I don't think that GOD 
wouldn't have let us have a beautiful baby girl, if he wasn't going to 
let me live long enough to see her grow up.  So it was actually a fore 
shadow of what was going to happen.  We didn't really know now, 
another thing that happen prior to any of this was that we had both 
read a book thats called "Twice Given the Glory of God" written by 
Tom Williams. Don't know if you've heard of it, its about a pastor, 
his wife, a Church, they get together.  They go over to Israel for a 
trip to the Holyland and while over their this pastors wife contracts 
Spinal Meningitis.  This book goes through the whole ordeal of how 
prayers and GODs hand kept her alive, and how he did things and 
how he would pray with her, play tapes, the Bible on tape to her. A 
couple of other things which I think CYNDIE mentioned when we 
got there.  We read that before and it turned out to be a preparation 
that GOD gave us to what was going to happen. So now, I'm back in 
the hospital on Monday,(15th) on Tuesday (16th) morning, think it 
was around 6 o'clock in the morning, I was hurting again.  I went out 
to the nurses desk and I talked to the head nurse and I asked him for 
some pain pills. He gave me some. We talked for awhile, I don't 
remember what it was about, but it was a bit long time.  It was 
probably about my Dad's computer, or something. They were always 
talking, him and my Dad were talking computer stuff so, but.  I went 
back to my room I laid down and I don't remember much but from 
what I was told, I turned to my room mate who was in there, who 
was having some pain and two Corpsman, its kind of like nursed 
aide.  The two Corpsman in there attending him to see if they could 
make him more comfortable.  I turned to him and I said I can't 
breathe and at that time, of course GOD's timing, he had the doctor 
walk in the door. The doctor came over right to me and asked if I 
was all right.  I remember looking up at him and I think with the last 
breath out of my left lung. I said Paul I can't breathe.  At that time 
my left lung got a tear in it, and my left lung collapsed. Now you can 
probably piece together that without either lung breathing, I wasn't 
alive.  My heart quit.  Both lungs are collapsed and I'd been qualified 
for CPR, I've never done it, but, now I know what it feels like from 
the inside. There was a time I recall, I looked up and they were 
pumping on my chest and there was a battle going on in my mind. 
That it was a real struggle to stay alive.  My body was trying to quit 
because it didn't have any oxygen and yet my heart and my mind kept 
fighting back and forth, I kept fighting, do I want to live or do I want 
to die. Finally I resigned to say "ok, forget it lets just get it over 
with", let me die and be the end of this, but that wasn't GOD's will.  I 
was technically dead four minutes and it took them eleven minutes 
before they got enough oxygen in my body to sustain life.  I guess 
from there I went to ICU. Thats where they called my wife 
(CYNDIE). I don't remember any of that, so its just from what 
people told me.  So from that time on I was unconscious for quite 
awhile so I have to turn it over to her (CYNDIE) to tell what happen 
outside my body.

CYNDIE:  Well like he said he was scheduled for surgery for 
Tuesday (16th) morning to try and open up the air passage, back into 
the right lung which now was totally collapsed, in that short period 
of time.

In those nine days while they were testing the cancer had grown 
totally over the air passageway and had blocked off the air. They had 
scheduled surgery for Tuesday morning Sept 16, 1988 and he had 
gone to the nurses desk.  Now while this was transpiring over at the 
hospital, I was up already and had gotten the kids ready and was 
waiting for the in-laws to show up. We were going to be there when 
he got out from surgery. At that time I received a phone call, it was 
ten minutes to seven.  Everything we told you had transpired in 
twenty minutes.  They called and said Mrs. BARR we want you to 
come down right away, your husband has been taken to Intensive 
Care. I said excuse me he is scheduled for surgery this morning and 
he said no, your husbands right lung totally collapsed and his left 
lung tried to breathe for both of them and it has blown out.  He has a 
tear in it.  He has been taken to Intensive Care and we need you 
down here right away.  I hung up the phone and I gathered myself 
and I picked up the phone again and I reached for my family up in 
New York, my church family and started the Prayers.  Our Pastor 
got ready and another Deacon from our church came down and while 
they were on the way I waited for my in laws. 

They got their and we were on our way to the hospital. When we got 
their and I walked in sure enough there he was in Intensive Care with 
a whole bunch of tubes in him.  They were instructing me on 
everything they had given him.  They said anywhere from twenty two 
to twenty five drugs within an hour and half of everything happening.  
We started praying right away.  Right away they told me of his 
chances not being good, but I knew that it was GOD's will. I knew 
that the night before that he told me that if I just held his hand and 
held on tight that GOD was going to carry us along through this and 
that one day we would look back and see only on set of footprints in 
the sand.  I started praying and I turned to GOD.  Sure enough he 
never left us.  The next thing that transpired were making decisions.  
When your love one gets sick its a hardship on your heart to know 
their ill.  You feel their pain but yet you have all those decision to 
make at that time.  I had to make decision on what medication they 
wanted to try on him. He had just turned twenty six, a lot of the 
things they did for him was worth a try.  They didn't have patients 
that young ever, who had gotten cancer and had grown at enormous 
rate.  So at that time they told me that day they had decided they 
were going to try either radiation therapy or chemo therapy.  So I 
asked why not try both?  He said we never thought about that.  So 
they discussed it and came to me and said we can try both, and I said 
I need a minute, and they said you need a minute?  I said I need a 
minute to pray.  So I turned and I prayed to GOD.  I felt that we 
were making the right decision.  So I signed the forms.  They decided 
to do the radiation and chemo that day. That evening I went home 
and I had to tell my young son that his father might not make it, but 
even in the wisdom of children, GOD can use them. They maybe 
young but the LORD can sure use them.  He came to me and said, 
Mom, don't worry about it, if Daddy dies we will see him in heaven.  
Sure enough it gave me strength and I remember those little words.  I 
read him a story, he wanted to read more, but I knew I had to get 
back to my husband. So I left him with his Uncle Jim while I went 
back to the hospital.  The next morning they came to me, around 
eleven o'clock in the morning and they said Mrs. Barr we don't think 
your husband will live till two o'clock this afternoon.  Then I said 
well, if its the LORDs will, it will be. But I had more faith in GOD 
and I knew my husband would be just fine. So we went in and started 
praying. By now our pastor was there. Then they came and told me 
that they couldn't do the radiation therapy. They could only do the 
chemo that day. His heart rate had dropped so low that if they just 
jarred the bed he would die.  So they didn't dare move him.  So the 
next thing we decided was to just do the chemo therapy that day.  He 
lived past 2 o'clock and we praised the LORD and continued praying.  
The next day once again, "we don't feel that your husband will live 
past three, and once again he lived. Than we continued praying and 
then they came and told me they were going to medically discharge 
him.  Well, naturally I got upset I said my husband has given almost 
nine years of his life to the Navy and now because he can't do his job 
they want to kick him out. I said it isn't right, I have a baby who is 
only going on six weeks old, and I have another child to feed and is 
something should happen to him, I need to be able to care for them. 
They said well, we are going to have to stop your pay as well.  I 
didn't understand and I said why, they said we can't find the power of 
attorney papers that states that you are legally his wife, that you are 
entitled to his pay. So they stopped paying us. I said well LORD its 
in your will. I went back and we continued praying. Then they 
brought in some lawyers.  We discussed it and they decided to try to 
medically retire him.  So then they came in and they told me once 
again that my husband might not live past 10 o'clock tonight.  I said 
well if its the LORDs will, then it will be done.  But I had more faith 
in God, then you know, I know that he will live, and I turned to Dr. 
ENGLISH, he looked at me and said you know, we have some good 
Psychiatrist.  I said I don't need one I've got one already and thats the 
LORD Jesus.  He looked at me like I was in shock or I was loosing 
my marbles.  I said you don't know the LORD like I know JESUS. 
He never left us and he won't leave us. Then the lawyers showed up 
thirty-five minutes later. They said we talked with Arlington 
(Virginia) and we decided to retire your husband, but he has to live 
one minute past midnight. Well, I just got told he won't live past 10 
o'clock tonight so whats one minute past midnight.

He looked at me and said we just have to pray a little harder. So my 
pastor, the deacon, my father in law and I gathered around my 
husbands bed.  We got on our hands and knees and we prayed. As 
soon as we got up off our knees, his heart rate started increasing a 
little bit.  We continued prayers and I remembered that book.  I 
remembered everything I read and I knew then this was just to 
glorify GOD and I knew that he was just using us.  That we were just 
a tool and I remembered how this man had started prayers for his 
wife. How he had told in his story, that the soul needed the word of 
Even while unconscious that soul can still hear.  So we started 
prayers around the clock and 10 o'clock came, he was still with us, a 
minute past midnight he was still with us.  We rejoiced and praised 
the LORD. Then they came and they said well were trying to decide 
weather to do surgery on that lung to repair the hole.  But we can't 
do anything because of the right lung being collapsed with the 
cancer. Right now we can't tell weather the cancer has stopped 
growing or has continued growing.  About all we can do is continue 
with the therapy. I said well if its GOD's will, he will take care of him 
in his own time and in his own way.  So once again, Dr. ENGLISH 
told me that they had a good psychiatrist for me. I said I don't need 
them, thank you.

So sure enough I went back in and this was 3 o'clock in the morning, 
I got on my hands and knees and I asked GOD, and I just looked up 
to him. I helped a little bit, I couldn't hold onto my husbands hand, 
because they had so many needles stuck in him.  That, by now, one 
of his arms had blown so many times that now they had to start 
sticking his needles in his hips, because they couldn't reach any more 
veins. I held what little bit of his fingers that I could  and I held on 
tight.  I turned to GOD, and I looked up to him, and I said, Dear 
LORD, you put air into those lungs when you brought him into this 
world, I know you can do it again. They came in and said Mrs. 
_BARR_ we scheduled your husband for radiation therapy at 9 
o'clock tomorrow morning.  His heart rate has increased.  I said okay 
9 o'clock came. I was there, 9:45 my husband wasn't there.  I went 
back to the ICU unit and there he was.  I said why isn't my husband 
getting radiation therapy and they said well, the machines are down. I 
turned to Dr. ENGLISH and I said Praise the LORD, and he said 
excuse me? your husband needs this radiation therapy. I said the 
LORD needs time to work on his body, and he said, you know, Mrs 
BARR  I said yes, I know, but I don't need them.  I said you know 
Dr. ENGLISH, you need the LORD, you need to believe, you need 
to have faith.  He said, so you keep telling me.

He went on to his next patient at 1:30 in the afternoon they brought 
_ him downstairs for radiation therapy.  While he was there, like they 
always do, they took xrays prior to doing the radiation so they knew 
where to aim the radiation.  It was at this time that I heard all the 
doctors being paged. I had faith in God, but it was tested, its like all 
our faith, its always been tested.  Its in times of trails that we really 
have to stick close to the LORD. Because others look up on you, 
when you are being tried to see how strong is your faith.  I knew it 
was GOD's will if he wanted to take him.  When I heard those 
doctors being paged, I felt he was gone, but I knew I'd see him again, 
and then they all came out 22 doctors and their all putting up his xray 
on those machines.  They said Mrs. BARR you want to take a look, 
as always I took a look, and they said do you believe this?  I said 
excuse me, if its the _LORD's will, it will be done.  He looked at me 
and said, MRS.  BARR, we don't know what your talking about, 
your husbands fine.  I said, well Praise the LORD.

Then he said both of his lungs are taking in air, and they were.  I said 
its the LORD's will, and DR.  ENGLISH looked at me and said I 
gotta get to know this JESUS.  (I talked with him and he is saved 

A lot of nurses that didn't know the LORD, got to know JESUS. 
People who have walked away from God, came back to know the 
LORD. I remember a particular gentleman changed, his wife was due 
anytime, and he was excited about that baby coming, their first baby. 
he wanted a boy.  I said wouldn't it be wonderful, that when that 
baby was born, that it had a home to go too.  He said we have a 
home, and I said not a home with JESUS. He said you know, I 
stopped going to church a long time ago.  I said maybe it s time to 
get back.  Sure enough that Sunday they went to church and the 
following day that baby was born. He told me the next day when he 
came, that he rejoiced at how he got back to the LORD.  How he 
wife was filled with joy, they were back to JESUS.

Meanwhile my husband got his radiation and chemo.  He started 
improving. Now our Pastor had to go back and my in laws had to 
come back and their I was with my two children and their I was 
making decisions, but I wasn't alone.  Then they decided they wanted 
to ween him off the machine.  So we had to make more decisions.   
He started improving so we didn't know what condition he would be 
in.  We feel he had a partial stroke.  So he maybe blind and he may be 
partially paralyzed. I said well, if this is the LORD's will?  Sure 
enough he, when he woke up he couldn't see.  Things were blurry 
and the left side of his body as well as his right arm, he couldn't 
move. I remembered back to the book how the gentleman had 
exercised his wife's legs and he had put these high top sneakers on 
her to make sure the feet didn't drop.  So I ran to the Navy exchange 
which is a big store right on the post. I asked the gentleman for a size 
8 1/2 high top sneakers. He said we don't carry half sizes, and were 
about to close. I said please look, I need a pair of high top sneakers.  
He said ma'am?  I said please just take a look.  He went back there 
and he came out with a pair of high top sneakers.  He said I don't 
know where these came from, we don't carry half sizes.  But there's a 
pair of 8 1/2 size high top sneakers.

CARL:   I am now the proud owner of a $30.00 dollar pair of brand 
name sneakers.  Thanks to God.

CYNDIE:  I didn't have a lot of money at the time because I was 
budgeting, but the LORD had touched my in-laws heart and they had 
left some money with me.  At the time the gentleman said, well it just 
so happens their on sale.  I had plenty of money for them.  I got to 
the cash register, the gentleman says we are closed.  I said please I 
must pay for these sneakers and I have to have them today.  He said 
Ma'am I'm closed.  Please their for my husband, he said, well, can't 
he wait until tomorrow to go jogging?  He's in Intensive Care.  He 
said your going to buy him these high top sneakers.  I said he needs 
them and the LORD has provided them.  So I paid for the sneakers. I 
ran and I put them on him. I started exorcising his legs and the next 
morning his right hand moved. He squeezed my hand and he started 
moving.  A couple of days later he started moving his feet, and the 
nurses jumped for joy, and hollered for me out in the hall when he 
first crossed his legs.  Then his left hand started squeezing, then he's 
always been a persistent man.  I told him he needed to keep trying.  
Sure enough he got to feel that left hand.  He got to holding a little 
tennis ball they gave him to exercise with.

So now, we were up on the ward, but they still couldn't repair the 
tear that he had in his left lung.

CARL:   My vision was no better then seeing blurred figures. I could 
see you there in figures, but I couldn't see who it was. Weather it was 
a man or woman.  Had to hear a voice before I knew who it was. 
Then, it wasn't long I was up there.

CYNDIE: In just a couple of hours and I had to trust the LORD. I 
had to make a decision.  Now, that he was up on the ward, I had 
made that decision before in intensive care, that if something happens 
to him that they wouldn't do anything to prevent the LORD's will.  I 
told them do what you can, but don't keep him on a machine just to 
keep him a live. Let him go to the LORD.  Now, that he was back on 
the ward I had to make that decision again.  I was feeling kind of lost 
and feeling a little uneasy.  I figured I'd go down and get a cup of 
coffee, and I was in a blur, I could feel like tears were going to come 
out of my eyes.  I paid for the coffee, and the lady gave back my 
change.  I wasn't even paying attention and she said ma'am you 
forgot your change. I turned and said excuse me.  She said ma'am 
you forgot your change and she handed me a dollar bill.  It was 
through that glassy eyes that I saw red ink, and I turned that dollar 
bill up and I looked at it.  It said "JESUS SAVED". I knew I wasn't 
alone. I knew he hadn't left me, and he gave me courage to go on.  I 
still have that dollar bill today. JESUS saved.

I went back upstairs and I told them, I want you to do all that's 
possible to keep him alive.  I knew at that time that GOD had given 
me the strength to make the decision.  I decided I had to trust the 
LORD. I had to go to a motel that night.  I went to the motel that the 
Navy had provided, the Navy relief were paying for and while there, 
it was 2 o'clock in the morning, I called and they said your husband's 
just fine. I talked to the head nurse and she said your husbands just 
fine.   I had left him at one o'clock that morning.  I had just put my 
babies to bed. I called again, she said he's just fine.  It was quarter to 
three.  I laid down and I said, well LORD, its your will and I'm going 
to trust you.  Three o'clock that morning he had another attack, and 
at three fifteen the police officers came knocking on the motel door 
to get me, I grabbed my children out of bed, put them in the car and I 
went back to intensive care where they had him. Here we were again.  
Dr _ENGLISH_, looked at me, the LORD's will right, and I said yes, 
the LORD's will. Your still glorifying his name. By now, Dr. 
_WISE_ had come into the scene, and he said, I knew about JESUS, 
but I have never seen all the work he done here.  I never knew he 
could do so much.  I said he can do a lot more, and the next day he 
started improving and he started getting better.  Sure enough we 
started getting him back up and he started sitting in a chair. They 
started once again to ween him off the ventilating machine.  Once 
again we were back up on the word, seventh floor.  It was about five 
or six days later that he looked out the window and saw the first tree.

CARL:   It was that late, September.

CYNDIE:  End of Oct -- First of Nov.

CARL:  So we were around the end of Oct.  We started out in Sept. 
So were this far into.  I was in ICU for 13 days the first time.

CYNDIE: Fourteen days.

CARL:  Fourteen days the first time like, eleven days the second 
time, and now, were kind of wondering, ok LORD, what are we 
doing here. We went down there because of the cancer on the right 
side. Now the cancer at that time, they gave us a report that the 
initial treatment, that the cancer had shrunk by fifty per cent.  It was 
half the size it was when we started.  Something was going right 
there with the medicine.  So we were working through that.  But I 
said we went there for the right side, now its the left side thats 
keeping us here.  When the left side collapsed and when it all started 
they did what they call a chest tube.  The lung is inside a cavity, in 
your chest. Its inside a cavity and its kind of stuck to the cavity wall 
so that is when your muscle contracts it expands your lung fills with 
air. When they got a tear in it all the air in that lung is going into the 
cavity between the lung, now the lung has shrunk and in that cavity, 
there's a bunch of air in it.  So they put tubes in, they put one from 
the left and one to the right, one from the right, one from the left, to 
stick in around the left lung to suck that air out so they can get it 
expanded again.  Before I left ICU the second time they pulled a 
couple of tubes.  They pulled out the one from the right side, and 
now, I still had two one the left side.  Now that was keeping them 
from doing any more chemo therapy. Because with the penetration 
their I could easily get an infection.  Now chemo therapy, it kills 
some good cells as well as the bad cells.  So it knocks out your white 
blood cell count, so if you get a sickness or virus, you know, a 
common cold can kill you because your white blood cell is so low.  
So now we had to hold off on this tell the left lung got fixed, till it, 
stopped leaking, so they could pull the tubes out.  So each day my 
doctor would come in and ask me how my vision was.  Each day it 
got a little bit better.  I went to an optometrist, eye doctor, whatever 
you call them. They did tests and the head people, neurologist, did 
their test.  Then they flashed things in front of my eyes.  They said 
my eyes were working fine it was called cordial blindness, it comes 
from the cortex, the back of your brain that controls your vision.  
They figure that I didn't get enough blood -- that when I was dead I 
didn't get enough blood to the back and thats why I couldn't see as 
well.  It had been getting better and this doctor asked me, and finally 
one day I told him that I had enough faith that I would be able to 
read my bible again and he said no, maybe a large print Bible, I said 
no, my Bible, sure enough, you just heard me read  to you.

It went on and on, the left lung wouldn't heal, they were expecting it 
to heal itself and the only time that my faith falter even the slightest 
bit is when, one night I was so confident my faith was so strong that 
I believed that when I woke up in the morning that my left lung 
would be healed, GOD would just (snap of fingers) but that wasn't 
his will, when I woke up in the morning and it was still leaking the 
tube was still there, I falter just a little bit, but then I talked to my 
pastor and he gave me a little bit of reassurance and let me see that 
what I didn't pray for that night was GOD's will and his timing. That 
it obviously wasn't his will, because he had a lot more work to do 
there, but each day my vision started getting better, now I could see 
the cars driving by on the road out there, and I still couldn't see close 
up, I couldn't see who it was by the face, I had to wait till they spoke, 
in the case of my primary doctor the way he walk in, I could see his 
silhouette, the way he walked, he had a gait and I could tell who it 
was, but they decided that what they were going to do was 
ostasclorosis and inject tetracycline into a tube that was going into 
my left side, roll me around a little bit and try to cause that to go on 
the outside of the lung and scar it.  Cause scar tissue to form over the 
wholes and heal it up, I never felt so much pain in my life as when 
they injected that stuff in there, they rolled me around, and that was 
only a short time, maybe only fifteen-twenty minutes.

Cyndie: And it feels like your bodies on fire inside, the skins burning 

Carl:  They took some xrays, came back in another day or two and 
took some more, and after a few days they decided it didn't work, so 
when they first did it I stopped before they did it and I prayed right in 
front of them, I asked GOD to give me the strength to do this, I 
knew it was going to hurt, I didn't know how much, I prayed that I 
wouldn't start shouting obscenities or some thing and if I said 
anything it would be Praise GOD, and I did I rolled back and forth, 
Praise GOD, Praise GOD, to just keep from saying anything else 
because it hurt. I told CYNDIE then and I told the doctors I never 
felt anything this bad, and I never wanted to do this again, I'd never 
do this again, don't ever say never.  Because GOD had other plans, 
they came back two weeks later and decided they wanted to do it 
again.  I said now wait a minute you know, have you ever had this 
done?  Oh no -- well I'm here to tell you it really hurts, so well okay 
were going to give you some pain killer, valium, they pumped all 
kinds of drugs in to me to try to kill the pain, I don't think they 
waited long enough because I still felt it.  At this time they rolled me 
from one side to the other, head up and head down, and each 
position was fifteen minutes, all together and this stuff burns.  But it 
didn't work, so now they come down to the last possible thing they 
could do except sit their and wait for it to heal, was to go in 
surgically into that left lung and fine the holes and seal them.  And 
then I thought of how I asked GOD to heal the lung and he did, like I 
said, in his time and his way, but his way was to go in cut my side 
open and take out eight inches of my ribs and they actually pulled my 
lung out, turned it around , said ok, where's the holes at? They 
thought there was only one hole and they actually found three and 
when they pealed that scare tissue off they found three holes, so they 
got the staple gun out and they stapled them shut and put me back 
together again.  Had forty some staples down my side and my back 
and I was thinking all right everythings, Honkie Dorry, we were 
getting ready to go, we still had some chest tubes in there, but, we 
knew once those healed up and once incision tried to heal they could 
pull the chest tubes out and they pulled the tubes out finally and got  
an infection up in the top of the incision and where one of the tubes 
was and what had happen was that the scar tissue that they put in 
there, that they had caused got infected, now I had infection on the 
inside as well as on the outside where they pulled the scar tissue out 
to touch the skin, so now I got an infection and now they started 
pumping antibiotics in me, say, I'm a heavy sleeper, but, I didn't get 
any sleep there, they woke me up at least, the most I got to sleep, 
was every four hours they woke me up, I think it was every two 
hours they had to come with another IV, take that one out, put 
another one in, put those antibiotics in there and the deciding factor 
now was when is that infection going to clear up, we had to pray 
about it. We were praying continually now we were praying for that, 
this was in December the first of, when I got up their on the ward, 
after the surgery and my anniversary in Dec 21st, I mention that date, 
it rang a bell, my anniversary is Dec 21st, and I keep telling the 
doctors, I'm not going to be in this hospital on my anniversary. Right, 
my sons birthday is the 24th of Dec so we wanted to be there for 
him, I sometimes make promises I can't keep but I made a promise 
I'd be up in New York for his birthday, I was bound and determined, 
if its GOD's will I'm going to keep it.  The next day the infection was 
gone, they stopped the IV and as long as my temperature stayed 
lower the 100 degree then they would  think about letting me go.  If 
it got any where close to 100,-- if  it got above 100 they made me get 
up and walk, walk the halls, holding a stack of towels up against my 
side because it hurt so bad and if I coughed it was tremendous and 
any time it got near 100 I was out their walking and breathing taking 
deep breathes, that would lower the body temperature and let the 
LORD do his work.  While I was helping him out.  It came up on the 
20th or 19th of Dec. and he said the infection is gone and your body 
is healing up, the only thing thats keeping you here is the paperwork, 
we had to get -- you see ICU they declared me incompetent because 
that way, CYNDIE could take care of my finances and all that, she 
got through the lawyers and got the money and all this.  So now we 
had to get a letter saying I was competent before we left there 
otherwise I'd never get, I'd have to fight those people to get them to 
say something.  So we had to walk around the hospital for two days, 
the 19th and 20th we had to walk around in my pajamas and robe 
from here to there all over the hospital, tracking down paperwork, 
getting them to make out this letter and getting this person to sign it, 
and talk to the psychiatrists and tell them I wasn't crazy.

CYNDIE:  I got to meet them finally.

CARL:  Finally we got out of there, but, right before we left, we had 
two things happen, one, a friend of ours called, a guy who used to 
work with me, called, he been trying to get in touch with us, he said 
he'd been praying that we'd be home soon and everything is going all 
right, we talked to him and appreciated his prayers.  The second 
thing was we'd been praying that God would provide a place for us 
to live, because now when we went down there, and they stopped 
paying her, we couldn't afford to rent our apartment any more, so 
now, so the friends from our church, they went in and in a day and 
packed everything up, evacuated the apartment. Painted it and the 
whole works.

CYNDIE:  Clean it up and painted it.

CARL:  We didn't have a place, we new where our stuff was, it was 
in somebody's barn out in the woods.  We learned then material 
things don't mean anything.  It didn't matter where our things were, it 
didn't matter what we had, that 3 TV sets and stereo, this and that. 
There all material things which we didn't mean anything primarily we 
had GOD and we had each other and family.  We had be praying that 
GOD would provide us a place, I told CYNDIE don't worry, we will 
have a place to live, right before we left, her friend Debbie called us 
and said they found a two bedroom apartment ready for us. We 
praised GOD. Everybody in the hospital on that floor probably heard 
us. Again another answer to prayer.  So we got out on the 20th.

CYNDIE:  And the head nurse got saved.

CARL:  That's right, head nurse got saved and another nurse came 
back, she had been strayed away and she came back.  In the time that 
we were there, I don't remember the numbers. Approximately we 
came in contact with GOD through us, with 292 doctors, 400 and 
some nurses and over a 1,000 corpsman's. All those people saw the 
light of JESUS coming though us. We saw many people get saved 
and many come back to GOD. And we saw many of them that didn't 
have the slightest idea of what was going on, or what we were 
talking about, start wondering and asking questions.  So we won't 
know till we get to heaven how many of hose people were saved.  So 
we got out on the twentieth, out for our anniversary.  We went to the 
CHI CHI restaurant, Mexican restaurant, had a great time.  If you 
have ever eaten at a CHI CHI restaurant they are fantastic Mexican 
joints.  We started up on the 22nd.

CARL:  No the 23rd. We started driving up there and its only a ten 
hour drive, eight to ten hours, depends on how many time you stop.  
It took us sixteen hours.  We dove over one hundred fifty miles at 
twenty miles an hour, their was a heavy fog, you couldn't see two 
feet in front of you, we thought were never going to get there for my 
sons birthday, but we got  there, walked into Debbie's hours were my 
son was living, it was before midnight, it was about five minutes 
before midnight on the 23rd, I was there for his birthday on the 24rd.  
Then we went over to see where we were going to live.  We walked 
in the door, gave us the key, when you walk in the door the first 
thing you see is the kitchen, there were seventeen bags of groceries 
on the kitchen floor waiting for us.  A ham in the refrigerator and a 
big butter ball turkey in the freezer.  I hate turkey, hate turkey, Praise 
the LORD it was there.  Then we went to the bedroom, the bed was 
put together, the beds were all made and ready for us to crawl in.  A 
Christmas tree all decorated in the living room. Thats how wonderful 
our friends are in Christ at our church.  And thats about all of the 
story except the little things that have happen since then.  Many 
prayers have been answered because of this, many people got saved. 
They called me down at the hospital one night, on a Sunday night, on 
a speaker phone, they wanted to sing my favorite song " Count Your 
Blessings ".  Because he's done so many things for me and they sag it 
to me. Because of that, there was a young man got saved, that night 
there. Now he is one most actively growing people in our church and 
I think that as a result of this whole trial, we have both come closer 
to GOD.  Of course for three and half months laying on my back, I 
had nothing to do but talk to GOD.  I grew tremendously in my faith, 
my pastor sent the new testament on tape, I've read the four Gospels 
in part a couple of times but never really got as much out of it as I 
did when I heard them instead of reading. I can encourage you that if 
you get a chance to get the Bible on tape do it. You get much more 
out of it.  One of the greatest things that could have happen out of 
this whole trial.  Before I left New York the first time I was in the 
hospital after laser surgery I talked to my Dad on the phone, and I 
witnessed to him, I talked to him about GOD an about JESUS and 
we talked, talked and talked and when I got out for the weekend 
down in Maryland, we talked some more, and it seemed like I 
couldn't get through to him, it was like he had the knowledge in his 
head but he was stubborn and he knew up there, but he just didn't 
want to do anything about it in his heart.  I think this whole trial and 
a few other things led him to be saved this past weekend.  Two 
weeks ago Dad got saved through this trial, another answer to a 
prayer and before we left, we had to delay.  We were going to leave 
on a Monday we had to delay because I had to go back down to the 
VA hospital and we done chemo therapy and finish things off to 
satisfy them that there was nothing there.  So when we got up there 
did the first Cat scan, there wasn't anything there.

CYNDIE:  They couldn't find any cancer.

CARL:  But they finished it off just to make sure there was nothing 
there.  To please them I had to go back for a physical, they really 
wanted to see what they were paying for, compensation and during 
that time the guy shined a light in my eyes, they didn't respond so we 
had to delay our trip because I had to go back down there to satisfy 
them on Monday by seeing an eye doctor, he did all these test, he 
dilated my eyes, looked in there, did field of vision test, checked this 
and that, read that chart, (two weeks).  My eyes went in two weeks 
time from not being able to focus fast, my focusing muscle didn't 
work right.  I could focus on my pastor, preaching but when I went 
back to reading I couldn't focus that fast.  In two weeks time before 
we left Monday, the doctor told us my eyes were 20/20, both eyes. 
I'm sure he's not done, he has to have kept me around for some 
reason when I left here I didn't want to go to college, I joined the 
Navy because I didn't want to go to school. Now of course in the 
Navy I went to school every day for eight years.  But I didn't want to 
go to college, now the LORD has made it possible for me to go to 
college at home, my wife and I are enrolled in Liberty Home Bible 
Institute. Liberty Baptists College, Lindbergh, Virginia.  Now, as 
many times as I have read the creation story of Genesis it has a whole 
different meaning when you start studying instead of just reading.  I 
don't know what he has in store for us, but, we are willing to do what 
ever he wants. And if you take anything out of this.  Take out that, 
GOD can do what for you what he has done for us and he will if your 
in his hand. But, I think you were saying this morning that if GOD 
doesn't answer a sinner, a lost person prayers, thats right the only 
prayer GOD answers is to get saved.  That JESUS will come into 
your heart and you gotta have that before you can see and 
understand. Fully comprehend what GOD has done and what he can 

CYNDIE:  Well I just want to add, you can't turn your back when 
you meet a stranger on your path, you never know when that 
stranger can be your friend, he told us to love our enemies, well that 
person may not be your enemy, he may be a stranger, but even in a 
busy time you got to take the time to share.  When my car broke 
down when I was at Bethesda, Maryland as well as many wonderful 
things that happen. This young man, this corpsman decide to help me 
out.  He didn't know much about mechanics, he brought a friend who 
did, and he stood there and I said, shall we pray before we start 
looking at the problem, and he said, your a Christian, I said yes I'm a 
Christian, I believe in the good LORD and Praise the LORD for he is 
always with me and he said I know JESUS too.  We have to pray 
right now that the LORD will just rebuke what ever the problem is.  
He started rebuking the car and everything in the car.  This other 
gentlemen that was with him looked at him like you need to see a 
shrink.  You been on the ward to long, and that gentlemen when we 
got through fixing the car was saved.  So even in busy times, you can 
always fine the time to share with someone.  Thats our mission in life 
is to be here to share with others, were here to please the LORD and 
to glorify his name. Even the smallest person and the tallest, even the 
persons whose the shyest, GOD can still use if he just humbles 
himself to the LORD.


	One night a man had a dream. He dreamed he
	was walking along the beach with the LORD.
	Across the sky flashed scenes from his life.
	For each scene, he noticed two sets of footprints
	in the sand, one belonging to him, and the other
	to the LORD.

	When the last scene of his life flashed before
	him, he looked back at the footprints in the
	sand.  He noticed that many times along the path
	of his life there was only on set of footprints.
	He also noticed that it happened at the very
	lowest and saddest times in his life.

	This really bothered him and he questioned the
	LORD about it.  "LORD, you said that once
	I decided to follow you, you'd walk with me all
	the way.  But I have noticed that during the most
	troublesome times in my life, there is only one
	set of footprints.  I don't understand why when I
	needed you most you would leave me.

	The LORD replied, "My son, My precious child,
	I love you and I would never leave you. During
	your times of trial and suffering, when you see
	only one set of footprints, it was then that I
	carried you."

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